Pre-Existence
Birth is not
a beginning and death is not an end.
First Word
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There are Three Thoughts
on the pre-existence of souls:
1. The soul has always existed and is a part of God; souls
were not created, this would make all souls little gods.
2. The soul was previously created in the spirit realm and
remained there until it could inhabit a body on earth.
3. The soul in the past inhabited another body and transmigrated to its
current body and most probably will do so again. (Re-incarnation)
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Concepts of pre-existence can encompass either the
belief that the soul came into existence at some time prior to
conception or the belief that the soul is eternal; always was and always
will be.
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Pre-existence or PREMORTAL existence which is probably a better word, refers
to the belief that each individual human soul existed before mortal conception,
and at some point before birth; enters into or is placed into the
body.
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Traducianism is a doctrine that the
origin of the soul or spirit is transmitted through natural generation
along with the body; meaning, an individual's soul is derived from the souls of
the individual's parents. - Martin
Luther was undecided although Lutherans as a rule have been
traducianists.
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Creationism is
a doctrine that God creates a soul for each body that
is generated - The Catholic Church teaches that every spiritual soul is created
immediately by God, it is not “produced” by the parents. - John Calvin favored creationism. (Presbyterians & other Protestants)
Reincarnation
- Transmigration
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Reincarnation is the religious or
philosophical concept that the soul or spirit, after biological
death, begins a new life in a new body. - NYOBS 34.02 -
REINCARNATION -
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Reincarnation is a word derived from Latin,
meaning literally, "entering the flesh again". The Greek equivalent
corresponds to the English phrase "transmigration of the soul" – They
refer to "being born again" which is a universal process that gives
rise to the cycle of death and rebirth, governed by “Karma”. - Every
living being's soul transmigrates (recycles) after death, carrying the seeds of
Karmic impulses from the life just completed, into another life and a lifetime
of karmas. - Birth
is not a beginning and death is not an end.
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After death, the life as we know now
moves on to another form of life based on the merits and demerits it
accumulated in its current life. The path to becoming a “Supreme Soul” is to
practice non-violence and be truthful.
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As worn-out garments are
shed by the person; Worn-out bodies are shed by the dweller within the body. - New
bodies are “put on” by the dweller, like garments. – Wikipedia
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Abrahamic
religions such
as Christianity, and Islam DO NOT BELIEVE that individuals
reincarnate, however in Judaism, followers of the Kabbalah do believe in
reincarnation.
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Note: If man is reincarnated throughout his eternal
existence and at the judgment his spirit is joined with his body to be changed
into a new glorified spiritual body, which body will he be joined to if he has
had many? – You cannot embrace reincarnation and the Bible.
1 Corinthians 15:51-52 –
We will ALL be changed
51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not
“all sleep”, BUT WE SHALL ALL BE CHANGED,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye,
at the last trump: for the trumpet
shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we SHALL BE CHANGED. (ESV)
1 Corinthians 15:53 – We
get a incorruptible immortal body
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption,
and this mortal must put on immortality. KJV
KABBALAH
RABBIT TRAIL
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Since I previously mentioned the Kabbalah concerning its esoteric
mystic teachings, I thought I should include it here for those interested in
the universal, secret, inner tradition of higher knowledge; the “Mystery
Religion” as connected with the Hebrews.
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The Kabbalah is teachings held by some
followers of Judaism to define the inner meaning of both
the Hebrew Bible and traditional Rabbinic literature and their
formerly “concealed” transmitted dimension, as well as to explain the
significance of Jewish religious observances. The Kabbalah in some Jewish
sects is followed more closely than the Torah.
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The origin of Kabbalah began with
secrets revealed to Adam by God about mysteries which includes; THE TRUE NATURE OF; Adam and Eve – The Garden of Eden – The Tree of
Knowledge of Good and Evil – The Tree of Life – The Serpent and the Forbidden
Fruit.
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The texts of kabbalah were once part of an ongoing ORAL tradition passed down through the centuries, however much of the oral knowledge
is now in written form.
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Every letter,
word, number and
even accent on words of the Hebrew Bible contain esoteric
meanings, describing the spiritual dimensions within exoteric ideas, and it
teaches the text interpretation methods for ascertaining these meanings.
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As early as the 1st century BC, Jews believed that the Torah (first
five books of the Hebrew Bible) and wider canonical texts contained “encoded” messages and hidden meanings.
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Gematria is one method for discovering these hidden meanings. Each
letter in Hebrew also represents a number; Hebrew, unlike many other languages,
never developed a separate numerical alphabet. By converting letters to
numbers, Kabbalists were able to find a hidden meaning in each word.
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The threat of foreign
conquest
caused The Sanhedrin; who
were the Jewish Leadership, to HIDE this knowledge and make it “secret”. They feared it would fall into the wrong
hands and if unsupervised and unguided, it could be misused and might lead them
into forbidden ways and practices.
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It is believed that the
Torah
was edited with the “Secret Knowledge”
encrypted within the various writings and scrolls.
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There are mysteries imbedded in the book of
Genesis believed to contain the secrets of the creation of the universe and the
forces of nature.
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There are also secrets; Isaiah’s Temple vision –
Jacob’s vision of the ladder to Heaven – The Burning Bush - The 72
letter names of God and the best known “secret knowledge” is in the book of
Ezekiel which describes his vision of “Gods Divine Chariot”, others call
it God’s Divine Throne. - NYOBS 33.19 - EZEKIEL’S UFO
Ezekiel 1:4-15 - A UFO or the Chariot of God or
What?
4 I looked: I saw … an immense cloud with lightning flashing from it, a huge ball of fire glowing like bronze.
5 Within the fire were what looked like four creatures vibrant with life. Each had the form of a human being,
6 but each also had four faces and four wings.
7 Their legs were as sturdy and straight as columns, but their feet were hoofed like those of a calf…
4 I looked: I saw … an immense cloud with lightning flashing from it, a huge ball of fire glowing like bronze.
5 Within the fire were what looked like four creatures vibrant with life. Each had the form of a human being,
6 but each also had four faces and four wings.
7 Their legs were as sturdy and straight as columns, but their feet were hoofed like those of a calf…
8 On all four sides under their wings they
had human hands. All four had both faces and wings,
10 Their faces looked like this: In front a human face, on the right side the face of a lion, on the left the face of an ox, and in back the face of an eagle.
15 As I watched the four creatures, I saw something that looked like a wheel … It looked like they were wheels within wheels. (MSG)
10 Their faces looked like this: In front a human face, on the right side the face of a lion, on the left the face of an ox, and in back the face of an eagle.
15 As I watched the four creatures, I saw something that looked like a wheel … It looked like they were wheels within wheels. (MSG)
Voices FOR
pre-existence
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LDS Mormons founder Joseph Smith doctrine
of 1833, taught that human souls are co-eternal with God the Father
just as Jesus is co-eternal with God the Father, He said "Man
was also in the beginning with God. - Intelligence, or the light of truth, was
not created or made, neither indeed can be”.
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Brigham Young later on introduced the
idea that the spirit which is
different from the mind or intelligence, was indeed created and not
co-eternal with God. - Young postulated that we each had a
pre-spirit intelligence that later became part of a spirit body, which then
eventually entered a physical body and was born on earth.
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Young stated in 1857, that every person was
"a son or a daughter of the Father. - In the spirit world their spirits
were first begotten and brought forth, and THEY LIVED
THERE WITH THEIR PARENTS for ages before they came here." – Wikipedia –
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Paul in his
letter to Corinth admitted
that there were many so called gods, confirming man is co-eternal with God;
we are eternal little gods.
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Islam - All souls are believed
to have been created in adult form before their earthly life and at the
same time God created the father of Mankind, Adam.
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The Quran recounts the story of
when the descendants of Adam were brought forth before God to testify that God
alone is the Lord of creation and therefore only He is worthy of
worship so that on the Day of Judgement, people could not make the excuse
that they only worshipped others because they were following the ways of their
ancestors.
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God then removed the
memory of this event from the minds of Mankind leaving only an innate awareness
that He exists and is One, known as the Fitra and He decreed at which point each and every human
would be born into the physical world. – Wikipedia
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Hinduism in the Bhagavad
Gita, considered by Hindus to be a most holy scripture, Krishna tells
Arjuna; "Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor
you, nor all these kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be."
– Wikipedia –
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15 Bible
verses used to support Pre-existence – 1) There is nothing
new under the Sun – 2) We existed in
another world just like Jesus. – 3) The Spirit
existed in another world just like Jesus. – 4) God
gave us promises before the ages began. – 5) Man was known before
he was. - 6) Before
God formed you in the Womb, He knew you.- 7) We have already
sinned before our Birth. – 8) He chose us
before the foundations of the world. – 9) We were chosen
before birth; predestined. - 10) We are a chosen race, a royal priesthood,
nation, people. - 11) Isaiah was called by God before he was born. – 12) Peter was known by God
before his birth. – 13) Paul was set apart before he was born.
– 14) Esau was
loved less before he was born. – 15) Paul confirmed there
are many so-called gods where the spirit parents live.
1) Ecclesiastes 1:9 – Nothing
new under sun; what has been will be
9 What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun. (ESV)
9 What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun. (ESV)
2) John 17:14-16 – We
existed in another world just like Jesus
14 I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
15 I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one.
16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. (ESV)
14 I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
15 I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one.
16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. (ESV)
3) Ecclesiastes 12:7 – The
spirit existed with God before birth
7 and the dust returns to the earth as it
was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. (ESV)
4) Titus 1:1-2 – God gave us
promises before the ages began
1 Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the sake of the faith of God’s elect and their knowledge of the truth, which accords with godliness,
2 in hope of eternal life, which God, who never lies, promised before the ages began (ESV)
1 Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the sake of the faith of God’s elect and their knowledge of the truth, which accords with godliness,
2 in hope of eternal life, which God, who never lies, promised before the ages began (ESV)
5) Ecclesiastes 6:10 – Man
was already known before he was
10 Whatever has come to be has already been named, and it is known what man is, and that he is not able to dispute with one stronger than he. (ESV)
10 Whatever has come to be has already been named, and it is known what man is, and that he is not able to dispute with one stronger than he. (ESV)
6) Jeremiah 1:5 - Before God formed you in the womb He knew you
5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” (ESV)
5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” (ESV)
7) Psalm 51:5 – We have
already sinned before our birth
5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me. (ESV)
5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me. (ESV)
8) Ephesians 1:4 - He chose us before the foundation of the world
4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love. (ESV)
4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love. (ESV)
9) Ephesians 1:11 – We were
chosen before birth; Predestined
11 In him we were also CHOSEN, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, (NIV2011)
11 In him we were also CHOSEN, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, (NIV2011)
10) 1 Peter 2:9 – We are a chosen
race, priesthood, nation, people
9 But you are a CHOSEN race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. (ESV)
9 But you are a CHOSEN race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. (ESV)
11) Isaiah 49:1 – Isaiah was called by God before he was born
1 Listen to me, O coastlands, and give attention, you peoples from afar. The LORD called me from the womb, from the body of my mother he named my name. (ESV)
1 Listen to me, O coastlands, and give attention, you peoples from afar. The LORD called me from the womb, from the body of my mother he named my name. (ESV)
12) 1 Peter 1:1-2 – Peter was known by God before his birth
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: (ESV)
1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: (ESV)
13) Galatians 1:15-16 – Paul set apart before he was born
15 But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace,
16 was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone; (ESV)
15 But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace,
16 was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone; (ESV)
14) Romans 9:10-14 – Esau was loved less before he was born
10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac,
11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls—
12 she was told, “The older will serve the younger.”
13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God’s part? By no means! (ESV)
10 And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac,
11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls—
12 she was told, “The older will serve the younger.”
13 As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God’s part? By no means! (ESV)
15) 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 –
There are many so-called gods
5 For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”—
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. (ESV)
5 For although there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth—as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”—
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. (ESV)
Voices rejecting
Pre-existence
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Jesus is the only person ever born of a woman who
existed before His birth. – John the Baptist was born 6 months before Jesus,
yet said Jesus was before him. – Jesus said that before Abraham was
born; He Himself existed.
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The Book
says No one has ascended into heaven except
He who descended from heaven, the Son of Man; Jesus. – He is not
of this world – He came from the Father and returned to the Father – He existed
before the earth was ever formed.
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Christianity There is only ONE God and
He is the creator of everything on earth. – Every human being is a unique
creation of God. – Every mortal person was created in his likeness; in His
image; “ETERNAL”. He formed our spirit and knitted us together in
our mother’s womb and it was when God breathed the breath of life into us that
we became a living soul; God now lives within us as Believers.
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NOTE: Our spirit is “created” ETERNAL, you must get this; we
will live forever somewhere.
John 3:13 – Jesus is the only one that existed
before the earth
13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. (ESV)
13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. (ESV)
John 17:5 – Jesus was with God before the world
existed
5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. (ESV)
5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed. (ESV)
Colossians 1:17 – Jesus was before all things
17 And He (Jesus) is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. (ESV)
17 And He (Jesus) is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. (ESV)
John 1:1 – Jesus existed in the beginning
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (ESV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (ESV)
John 8:23 – Jesus is not of this world
23 He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
23 He said to them, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
(ESV).
John 16:28 – Jesus came from and returns to the
Father
28 I came from the Father and have come into the world, and now I am leaving the world and going to the Father.”
28 I came from the Father and have come into the world, and now I am leaving the world and going to the Father.”
(ESV)
John 1:30 – Jesus came after me, but was before me
30 This is He of whom I said, ‘After me comes a man (Jesus) who ranks before me, because He was before me.’
30 This is He of whom I said, ‘After me comes a man (Jesus) who ranks before me, because He was before me.’
(ESV)
John 8:57-58 - Before Abraham was, I am
57 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?”
58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” (ESV)
57 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?”
58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” (ESV)
Isaiah 40:28 – God is the creator of everything
28 Have you not known? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.
28 Have you not known? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.
(ESV)
1 Timothy 2:4-5 – There is only ONE God
4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, (ESV)
4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, (ESV)
Malachi 2:10 – We were all crated by the one God
10 Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us? Why then are we faithless to one another, profaning the covenant of our fathers? (ESV)
10 Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us? Why then are we faithless to one another, profaning the covenant of our fathers? (ESV)
Psalm 102:27 – We are made “eternal” in God’s
likeness;
27 but you are the same, and your years have no end. (ESV)
27 but you are the same, and your years have no end. (ESV)
Genesis 5:1 – God Created Man in His own likeness
1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God. (ESV)
1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God. (ESV)
Genesis 9:6 – God made man in His own image
6 Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image. (ESV)
6 Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image. (ESV)
Isaiah 44:24 – God formed us from the womb
24 Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: “I am the LORD, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself,
24 Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: “I am the LORD, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself,
(ESV)
Zechariah 12:1 – God formed the Spirit within man
1 The oracle of the word of the LORD concerning Israel: Thus declares the LORD, who stretched out the heavens and founded the earth and formed the spirit of man within him: (ESV)
1 The oracle of the word of the LORD concerning Israel: Thus declares the LORD, who stretched out the heavens and founded the earth and formed the spirit of man within him: (ESV)
Psalm 139:13-16 – God knitted us together in the
womb
13 For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them. (ESV)
13 For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them. (ESV)
Genesis 2:7 – At our birth, we became a living
soul
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. (KJV)
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. (KJV)
1 John 4:12 – God lives within the Believer
12 No one has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us. (ESV)
12 No one has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us. (ESV)
At
Death Body, Soul, Spirit
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Death - This brings us up to
the discussion of Death. – What is the difference between the Body, Soul and Spirit? – Let’s unpack
some definitions.
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Body –
Man has a physical body that was formed from the dust and will return to the
dust at his death.
- Soul - In the simplest of
terms; the soul is the mind
of a man and his spirit controls his mind and his mind
controls his body. Souls are created by God and are given before
conception; - The Soul has sensations, thoughts, desires;
longs to eat, longs for God, magnifies God; it rejoices,
loves, knows and remembers; it has beliefs, emotions,
personality and performs intentional actions. – NYOBS 15.32 - SOUL SLEEP -
- Spirit - There is a spirit
in a man as well as a soul. - There are many scriptures supporting
BOTH the Soul and Spirit being “separate” although many
believe they are both the same. – At any rate, unlike the body, they are
never separated. - Man’s spirit/soul
is immortal and returns to God at death. – NYOBS 28.29 - IMMORTALITY -
- SELAH – (ponder this) - The SOUL/MIND is
what controls your actions – It receives its direction either from the
desires of your BODY – or - from the desires of your SPIRIT. – (Many let their bodies control their
mind - It’s a battle)
MAN “IS” - WHAT HIS SOUL - “THINKS”.
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Annihilation is the belief that at death the judged soul that does not go
to heaven, goes to hell and is annihilated; it ceases to exist; therefore souls
are NOT necessarily eternal.
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The Book
says at
death the soul returns to God who gave it and joins all the others that
have went before them, some will be GATHERED in paradise; others GATHERED in Hell, all awaiting the final judgement; degrees of eternal
rewards and degrees of eternal torment. – God does not send anyone
to hell, they are all volunteers; they made their choice.
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In the Book there is a TRUE story; not a parable of
a two men who died and IMMEDIATELY went to either paradise
or hell; both already judged on the decisions that they had made in their life
before they died. - (Only a true story contains
a NAME of a person; never in a made up parable).
Matthew 25:46 – The Soul will live for eternity
somewhere
46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (ESV)
46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” (ESV)
Deuteronomy 32:49-50 – Moses soul left his body
joined others
49 Go up this mountain of the Abarim, Mount Nebo, which is in the land of Moab, opposite Jericho, and view the land of Canaan, which I am giving to the people of Israel for a possession.
50 And DIE on the mountain which you go up, and be GATHERED to your people, as Aaron your brother died in Mount Hor and was GATHERED to his people,
49 Go up this mountain of the Abarim, Mount Nebo, which is in the land of Moab, opposite Jericho, and view the land of Canaan, which I am giving to the people of Israel for a possession.
50 And DIE on the mountain which you go up, and be GATHERED to your people, as Aaron your brother died in Mount Hor and was GATHERED to his people,
(ESV)
Numbers 20:24 –Aaron soul left his body joined the
other souls
24 Let Aaron be GATHERED to his people, for he shall not enter the land that I have given to the people of Israel, because you rebelled against my command at the waters of Meribah.
24 Let Aaron be GATHERED to his people, for he shall not enter the land that I have given to the people of Israel, because you rebelled against my command at the waters of Meribah.
(ESV)
Luke 16:19-31 – Judged at death; paradise or hell –
TRUE STORY
19 There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day.
20 And at his gate was laid a poor man named LAZARUS, covered with sores,
21 who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried,
23 and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw ABRAHAM far off and LAZARUS at his side.
24 And he called out, ‘FATHER ABRAHAM, have mercy on me, and send LAZARUS to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’
25 But ABRAHAM said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and LAZARUS in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish.
26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’
27 And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father’s house—
28 for I have five brothers—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’
29 But ABRAHAM said, ‘They have MOSES and the Prophets; let them hear them.’
30 And he said, ‘No, FATHER ABRAHAM, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’
31 He said to him, ‘If they do not hear MOSES and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’” (ESV)
19 There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day.
20 And at his gate was laid a poor man named LAZARUS, covered with sores,
21 who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried,
23 and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw ABRAHAM far off and LAZARUS at his side.
24 And he called out, ‘FATHER ABRAHAM, have mercy on me, and send LAZARUS to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.’
25 But ABRAHAM said, ‘Child, remember that you in your lifetime received your good things, and LAZARUS in like manner bad things; but now he is comforted here, and you are in anguish.
26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’
27 And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father’s house—
28 for I have five brothers—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’
29 But ABRAHAM said, ‘They have MOSES and the Prophets; let them hear them.’
30 And he said, ‘No, FATHER ABRAHAM, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’
31 He said to him, ‘If they do not hear MOSES and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’” (ESV)
1 Thessalonians 5:23 – Man
has a Spirit, a Soul and a Body
23 May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you
through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body
be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. NIV
Genesis 2:7 – Man’s BODY
is formed from the dust
7 the LORD God formed the man from the dust
of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the
man became a living being. NIV
Genesis 3:19 – The BODY
returns to dust
19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your
food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust
you are and to dust you will return." NIV
Genesis 2:7 – The breath
of God gave man his SOUL – His life
7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the
ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man
became a living soul. KJV
Jerimiah 1:5 – Our SOUL
was formed before we were born.
5 "Before I formed you in the womb I
knew you, before you were born NIV
Hebrews 4:12 – The Soul
and SPIRIT and Body are all separate
12 For the word of God is living and active.
Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to DIVIDING soul
and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and
attitudes of the heart.
NIV
Ecclesiastes 12:6-7- The
Immortal SPIRIT of man returns to God
6 Remember him-before the silver cord is severed,
or the golden bowl is broken; before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, or
the wheel broken at the well,
7 and the dust returns to the ground it
came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. NIV
Romans 8:6 – The SPIRIT
should control the SOUL/MIND
6 The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind
controlled by the Spirit is life and peace;
Proverbs 23:7 - What a man’s Soul thinks; so is he
7 For as he thinks in his heart, so is he. (NKJV)
7 For as he thinks in his heart, so is he. (NKJV)
Fork
in the Road
·
According to
the Book;
At death, there is a “Fork in the
Road” for the Spirit of a man which will take him temporarily to an intermediate
state of existence before he returns to the one who made him and his final
“Eternal State”. – The decisions he made in his previous life about the
“Son of God” determines which of the two destinies he will take.
·
For the Believer or the godly, they will
take the fork in the road to a place called Paradise where they have awareness of their
surroundings, comfort and have communion with God.
·
For the Un-Believer or the un-godly, they
will take the fork in the road to a place called in the Old Testament Sheol (the grave) and in the New Testament it’s called Hades. - They will have awareness of their
surroundings, their torment and separation from the Believers. There is NO EXIT.
NYOBS 21.30 - HEAVEN -- NYOBS 06.22 - DEATH HELL --
NYOBS 06.21 - PARADISE
·
SIDE NOTE: Paradise was also known as “Abraham’s Bosom”,
which was at one time located in Hades and held the godly saints of all times.
- When Jesus died; He went there and preached
for three days and then took all of Paradise and those in it to Heaven; where
it is now. – Paradise (Abrahams Bosom) is a place better to be
than on earth, but it’s not as good as it’s going to get. – NYOBS 15.36 – ABRAHAM’S
BOSOM -- NYOBS 68.29 – THE THREE DAYS -
Luke 23:42-43 - Believers will be in Paradise
42 Then he said to Jesus, "Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom." And Jesus said to him,
43 "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."
42 Then he said to Jesus, "Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom." And Jesus said to him,
43 "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."
Ephesians 4:9 – Jesus
descended into Hell
9 Now that he ascended, what is it but that he
also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? KJV
Matthew 12:40 – He was in
Hell Three days
40 For as Jonah was three days and three
nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three
days and three nights in the heart of the earth. NIV
1 Peter 3:18-20 – He
preached in Hell – In Abrahams Bosom
18 For Christ died for sins once for all. He was
put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,
19 through whom also he went and preached to
the spirits in prison
Ephesians 4:8 – He took
all those in Abrahams Bosom to heaven
8 Wherefore he says, When he ascended up on
high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Holy Spirit day of Pentecost) KJV
2 Corinthians 5:8 - Absent from the Body Present
with the Lord
8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. (NKJV)
8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. (NKJV)
Philippians 1:23 - Being with the Lord is far
better
23 For I am hard pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. (NKJV)
23 For I am hard pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better. (NKJV)
Luke 16:23 – Un-Believers in Hades have Awareness
and Torment
23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. (NIV2011)
23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. (NIV2011)
Luke 16:26 - Hell – There is NO EXIT
26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ (NIV2011)
26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ (NIV2011)
Last
Thoughts
· We didn’t exist until conception when God breathed the
gift of ETERNAL life into our spirit. - As believers we
become SANCTIFIED through the lifelong continual work of the
Holy Spirit which conforms us to the IMAGE
OF CHRIST.
NYOBS 75.08 -
SANCTIFICATION VS; JUSTIFICATION
- When
someone speaks to you in a different language, it needs to be translated into English or
whatever your language, in order for you to understand it.
- When
Jesus came to earth, His spiritual attributes were TRANSLATED into physical
attributes, which is what we see in Him as a physical
mortal man.
- Man
was made with physical attributes just like
Christ and at the rapture when we are TRANSLATED with spiritual
attributes WE WILL BE LIKE HIM and we shall see him
as He is.
- NOTE: - If you desire to
be like Him, you must make that decision NOW before the silver cord
is broken; before you die. – At this writing, 59 people were just shot and
killed in a concert in Las Vegas; whatever decision they had already made
about God was cemented.
The decisions you make on
this side of life have ETERNAL consequences.
- Life
is Choice Driven - You are Eternal –
In the
multitude of counselors,
there is wisdom.
Proverbs 11:14
I am grateful to those that went before me
providing concepts, ideas, historical
information, and scripture verses. Because of them I can stand on their
shoulders
and see further that I otherwise ever could
have.
A Commentary; Critical,
Experimental and Practical - Eerdmans
All the Women of the Bible – Edith
Deen
Antiquity of the Jews – Flavius
Josephus Matthias
Apocrypha – Goodspeed
Baker Commentary on the
Bible – Elwell
Bible Almanac; The – Packer-Tenney-White
Bible Commentary – F.B. Meyer
Bible Dictionary – Harper and Row
Bible Dictionary – Nelson’s
Bible Hub.com
Book of Mormon; The – Latter
Day Saints LDS
Dake’s Annotated Bible – Dake
English Standard Version
Bible – ESV
Expositor’s Bible
Commentary – Frank E. Gaebelein
Forgotten Books of Eden; The – World
Illustrated Bible
Dictionary; The – Tyndale
Interlinear Greek-English
New Testament - Baker
King James Version Bible –
KJV
Lost Books of the Bible; The - World
Lost Books of the Bible; The - Bell
Matthew Henry’s Commentary - Zondervan
Missing Books of the Bible; The – Halo Press
Mormon
Mirage; The – Latayne Colvett Scott
Mysteries of the Bible – Readers Digest
Nag Hammadi Library; The – James M. Robinson
Nave’s Topical Bible - Zondervan
New International
Dictionary of the Bible; The – Douglas -
Tenney
New International Version
Bible (2011) – NIV
NOTE: The “new” NIV has
been corrupted & made gender neutral. AVOID IT.
Secrets of the Dead Sea Scrolls – Hugh J.
Schonfield
Thru the Bible – J. Vernon
McGee
Vincent’s Word Studies of
the New Testament – Mac Donald
Who’s Who in the Bible – Paul D. Gardner
Wycliffe Bible Commentary;
The – Pfeiffer & Harrison
Wikipedia –
Zondervan Pictorial
Encyclopedia of the Bible; The – Tenney
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